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RE: My houserules on fategue


Author:

Bjorn Are Stolen

Time:

17.03.2003 22:23

Text:

> I like your approach to fatigue, Bjorn, particularly the
> effect on movement and SR modifiers. I'm not as comfortable
> with the idea of the Habit Rating, for a few reasons.
> First, I would prefer to avoid introducing new numbers
> wherever possible. Second, it seems to me that it
> duplicates to some extent what the STR attribute is
> supposed to be. That is, someone who is accustomed to
> carrying around a lot of gear is simply going to be
> stronger than someone who isn't.

My argument for using the Habit rating was from the army, where small, guys could outmarch frech hulks with the same amount of burden on their back, even if the hulks lifted much more in the trainingstudioes. I did a lot of push-ups in my younger days, and managed easily the amount required to get the top grade on the tests. To say that I was one of the strongest in my unit is laughable... It's not only about STR, its much about the habbit of it, hence the habbit rating.

> But another good thing
> about your suggestion is that it leads to a potential
> addition to the attribute training rules.
> What I would suggest is simply working out a basic
> encumbrance allowance based on STR alone, and modify
> movement rates according to that. Someone carrying less
> than the basic ENC for his STR would be essentially
> unencumbered, with any effect on movement or strike ranks
> (though ENC should still count as a negative modifier for
> skills like Swim).

A system resembeling your suggestion is done in Warhammer by a friend of mine, and the system works fine there. It still lacked the aspect of getting used to having somthing onyour back without nessecary getting stronger, though.

In RL, you probably do get stronger from carrying things, but since STR in RQ is general STR in your entire body, i find it wrong to say that carrying a heavy backpack makes you stronger in your fingers...
And enc is allso about how easy an object is to handle, not just weight. In my armydays, i got quite used to wield a 11kg machinegun after some time and the habit rating would simulate that i after some time got used to not bump it into branches, etc. when carrying it, not just my biceps getting bigger...

> Now, what was that I said about training? Simply this: If
> you spend a lot of time being encumbered, it should count
> as hours of training towards STR or CON. (I would treat it
> as half going to STR and half to CON; once an attribute has
> accumulated is value times 25 hours, you get a training
> increase roll for the attribute.) This is to reflect what I
> think you were aiming at with your "Habit Rating", but to
> generalize it more; becoming accustomed to a heavy load
> simply means getting stronger and tougher.

Well, I still mean that not so strong people could get used to carry things, without nessesary getting stronger. But your argument for carrying to count as STR\CON raisable training is valid enough.



Message threads

Topic: Author:
Time:
Message  Some Rule clarifications
Peter Beirne 24.02.2003 20:23  
Message    RE: Some Rule clarifications
Bjorn Are Stolen 24.02.2003 23:20  
Message      RE: Some Rule clarifications
Peter Beirne 25.02.2003 07:37  
Message        My houserules on fategue
Bjorn Are Stolen 26.02.2003 02:32  
Message          RE: My houserules on fategue
Peter Beirne 26.02.2003 17:16  
Message            RE: My houserules on fategue
Tom Cantine 15.03.2003 01:11  
Message              RE: My houserules on fategue
Bjorn Are Stolen 17.03.2003 22:23  
Message                RE: My houserules on fategue
Tom Cantine 19.03.2003 05:40  
Message                  RE: My houserules on fategue
Bjorn Are Stolen 19.03.2003 12:06  




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