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RE: martial arts


Author:

Bjorn Are Stolen

Time:

13.02.2003 20:10

Text:

> > So "Fist", "Kick", "Grapple", (the natural weapons)
> isn't
> > the martial art of unarmed combat? Why differ between
> > fistskill and for instance the maulskill? Therefore I'm
> for
> > either disposing of the MA skill entirely, or find an
> > useful aspect for it to cover.
>
> The distinction is the approach. The difference in my mind
> is using martial arts makes the hands and feet weapons. It
> is similar to a person using a sword as a club. You may be
> really good with the club, but you won't be using the
> weapon effective. The martial art of the sword allows you
> to do this.

Well, you don't use a sword in only one way. You might use the longsword as a club, and it could be damn effective, especially when facing people with full plate armour. (Why is the crossguard so pointed?) I know authentical longswordtecniqes that uses the sword as a throwing spear, a club\warhammer , a quarterstaff, a dagger, a nd as a sword.
That's allso why I think that a quarterstaffdude with a quarterstaffskill of 89 and a MA skill (my version) on 30 should get successes on the longsword if rolling 30 or less. Actually, some master from medieval europe have stated that the sword is just a tool to enable the user to close with the opponent. (Wether he ment it litterary or not, I don't know.)

> As for blocking - it depends on weapon use. A cross parry
> can be very effective. If you are using a rapier and main
> guache against a maul - by using a cross parry (combineing
> both weapons to block - you stop the maul - which requires
> the maul weilder to have to get the weapon going again. A
> good maul weilder (Especially the quarterstaff) can use a
> deflection to move into the next attack without losing
> momentum.

Cool point -the stuff on blocking. My experience is only on longsword, and with longsword you try to deflect all the time, because your deflections are allso the attacks. (For instance countering an overhead blow with a small sidestep and a horizontal deflection\cut to the side of the opponents head...)

When I keep critisizing your MA oppinions, it's because after doing longswordtraining (sublevel of the general term "Western martial arts" that covers any kind of fighting conducted in europe with or without weapons.) -for one and a half year I find it integrating grappeling, punching stabs, deflections, blocks and cuts into one consept of martial arts.

So you mean that the MA skill should not apply to Ninjas, fighting munks, etc. using quarterstaffs, singlestics, katanas, ninjatos, tantos, sais, etc. either?





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Topic: Author:
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Message  martial arts
Bjorn Are Stolen 06.02.2003 19:52  
Message    RE: martial arts
Tom Cantine 08.02.2003 04:36  
Message      RE: martial arts
Bjorn Are Stolen 08.02.2003 17:00  
Message        RE: martial arts
Peter Beirne 12.02.2003 20:33  
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Bjorn Are Stolen 12.02.2003 21:41  
Message            RE: martial arts
Peter Beirne 13.02.2003 18:20  
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Bjorn Are Stolen 13.02.2003 20:10  
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Tom Cantine 14.02.2003 01:48  
Message                  RE: martial arts
Bjorn Are Stolen 14.02.2003 09:21  
Message                    RE: martial arts
Tom Cantine 16.02.2003 01:19  
Message                      RE: martial arts
Bjorn Are Stolen 16.02.2003 16:57  




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